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panadol84u



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Nokia S40 V3 Reply with quote
用 kvm 0.3大致上可以模拟 jstardict 了。可是没有声音（唯一最重要的）。
试了下电脑的可以发声。但psp的不行。
这可能是个很复杂的问题。字典也是没法读到。
用jar打包的才可以， 所以想请大佬多添个 声音打包的设置，好不？ Exclamation

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 请求帮助 psp kvm 3 没有真人语音？ Reply with quote
panadol84u wrote:
用 kvm 0.3大致上可以模拟 jstardict 了。可是没有声音（唯一最重要的）。
试了下电脑的可以发声。但psp的不行。
这可能是个很复杂的问题。字典也是没法读到。
用jar打包的才可以， 所以想请大佬多添个 声音打包的设置，好不？ Exclamation

没研究kvm，不知道是不是有选项控制是否允许访问文件系统呢？

至于打包，你可以自己试着自己编译，需要netbeans 6.0，使用netbeans自带的cvs从http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstardict 取出所有的代码，打开 jStarDictM工程，将你需要的东西都放到jStarDict/jStarDictM/src/dict,编译就行了。

编译结果在jStarDict/jStarDictM/dist目录。
我很怀疑编入音频的文件要近百兆，能运行吗？
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
从http://www.pspkvm.com/上找到kvm v0.3.1中有文件系统支持。

这是从它的发行说明中找到的， 基本上就是说你要在你的内存卡的根目录建一个叫pspkvm的目录，kvm会将它用做root。kvm会询问一次是否允许访问文件。你可以试试jStarDictM能不能浏览这些文件。jStarDictM词典管理器，添加词典里有浏览文件功能。
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Running tips
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- JSR75 Tips:
- Please create a directory "pspkvm" in your memory stick's root directory, pspkvm would regard it as "root/"; Otherwise pspkvm will not find "root/"
- "music/" points to ms0:/PSP/MUSIC
- "photo/" points to ms0:/PSP/PHOTO
- "video/" points to ms0:/PSP/VIDEO
- "recordings/" and "tones" point to ms0:/pspkvm (same as "root/")
- SECURITY WARNING: For better application compatibility, the permission of Read/Write User Data is set to ALLOW. To avoid security leakage, the Airtime(Networking) permission is set to SESSION, which means you have at lease one chance for each time application running to deny your PSP exchanging data to Internet. PSPKVM only allows MIDlets to access specified directories, but you still need to keep in mind that an malformed application can make your personal data (e.g files in ms0:/PSP/PHOTO) leak, so please think twice when it's asking for Networking permissions.
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panadol84u



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: 感谢……999 Reply with quote
我没看清楚说明，原来是自己在根目录下再建一个pspkvm
虽然还是不能发声但是可以看到playsound的选项了
而且解释中出现了声音的图标。
想过一段时间这个是模拟器问题就会解决的。
非常感谢写了这个非常非常棒的软件。
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 请求帮助 psp kvm 3 没有真人语音？ Reply with quote
wind wrote:

编译结果在jStarDict/jStarDictM/dist目录。
我很怀疑编入音频的文件要近百兆，能运行吗？


^_^。psp不是手机啊。我也很怀疑。所以刚刚做了个实验。吧300多的文件赛进jar
照样运行。不过新版的手机好像也可以无jar大小限制的？
---sorry, I was wrong. it stuck whenai tried to run a 300+ jar.
the reason for the last time to work was because the progrom did not even touch the files i stuffed into it. but i think around 80mb should be ok anyway. andaim planing to try this one on the nokia 6110 since it's more native platform to run j2me progies. but it wouldnot be anytime sooner than 1year or two. coz i had this two years contract with 3 inexchange for a nokia 6288 which is great for general use but garbage when u wannit to run jars. despite 1mb file size limit. I couldnt set the application permission to even ask everytime. everything else graysout except NOT ALLOWED. well. I had seen so many of u complaining about being asked everytime. see, I didn't not even get the chance..

okey. back to where I was. psp is really great for this program is because it has its larger than large screen.
the disadvantage would be somof the compatiblity issues with the kvm.
and there is not a proper input method, that would suck, right? But as u can see. they are working on a highly anticipated virtual keyboard very soon.
and the other thing is kvm claimed to have wav supported. I even suggested to have mp3 done as well. but actually wav is still not working, at least for this excellent progie. somehow they will get it done soonor later, by the time u'll have what u wanted.

alright, why on earth would I want this to work on psp after all those drawbacks? if u have played around psp dictionarys and compared with this one, then u have no questions at all.
see the features, u'll love it. and don't forget psp's sexually attractive large screen, ul never need to press a down arrow key after u read a word everytime ever again. learning with the pleasure is the key, not the pressure.

for it to work, the mechanism is simple. u need a jar file to be run by kvm.
and this is the jstardictM.jar u need, the one u will have is just a shell. u then need to stuff all the dictionary u need into it by using the jstardict desktop version's export function. everything is staightforward.
have fun. guys.
and let wish kvm's big bros would work harder on the keyboard and mp3 files support.

我是直接用winrar打开jar就可以编辑里面的东西了
我想要的是让jar搜索声音文件的时候除了看root下面的。看看res里面的。
你说的方法？还像只是把声音放进去啊？

刚刚试了字典可以读之后很兴奋。可是会读三次。带了很多问题。kvm说支持wav所以我想有可能是程序不兼容的原因。但是如果可以在jar里运行的话问题不大。
所以。。不好意思。。劳烦你了。

就是如果声音可以像字典文件一样自己指地址的设置能否在下版做一个就最好了 Razz

另外。书签这个功能真是太需要了。直接就把这个软件变成自定义背单词软件了。
问题是我们有很多时候是在用电脑。生词在电脑上查了。用notepad记下了。
没理由一个个的在psp上再查一编？
如果书签可以从文本上倒入。也可以倒出存文本。那就会跟电脑同步起来。非常有利于学习之用啊。

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: 请求帮助 psp kvm 3 没有真人语音？ Reply with quote
panadol84u wrote:
wind wrote:

编译结果在jStarDict/jStarDictM/dist目录。
我很怀疑编入音频的文件要近百兆，能运行吗？


^_^。psp不是手机啊。我也很怀疑。所以刚刚做了个实验。吧300多的文件赛进jar
照样运行。不过新版的手机好像也可以无jar大小限制的？

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我是直接用winrar打开jar就可以编辑里面的东西了
我想要的是让jar搜索声音文件的时候除了看root下面的。看看res里面的。
你说的方法？还像只是把声音放进去啊？

除此之外，还要生成一个索引文件，告诉jstardict打进去了哪些文件。没关系了，正准备改造一下桌面版加入这个功能呢。稍等一些时间吧。
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刚刚试了字典可以读之后很兴奋。可是会读三次。

不知道你说得是指的自动搜索词典还是发音。
不过在设置里都可以关掉。对于发音，手机版缺省的是不启用的。我是判断的microedition.profiles是否以MIDP开头,可能KVM的设置不是这样吧。我下一版里在关于里显示这个值,你看看它是什么。
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带了很多问题。kvm说支持wav所以我想有可能是程序不兼容的原因。但是如果可以在jar里运行的话问题不大。
所以。。不好意思。。劳烦你了。


就是如果声音可以像字典文件一样自己指地址的设置能否在下版做一个就最好了 Razz

有建设性。有时间一定加上。
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另外。书签这个功能真是太需要了。直接就把这个软件变成自定义背单词软件了。
问题是我们有很多时候是在用电脑。生词在电脑上查了。用notepad记下了。
没理由一个个的在psp上再查一编？
如果书签可以从文本上倒入。也可以倒出存文本。那就会跟电脑同步起来。非常有利于学习之用啊。

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有建设性。有时间一定加上。
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
关注关注。 Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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关注关注。 Razz

先把导入导出书签做了。你下个最新的0.5.6版试试。
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: 请求帮助 psp kvm 3 没有真人语音？ Reply with quote
panadol84u wrote:
所以想请大佬多添个 声音打包的设置，好不？ Exclamation

http://www.teesoft.info/teedict/teedict.jnlp
最新的已经可以支持在导出词典和打包到jar之间暂停一下。你可以复制文件到dict\sound目录，然后按确认继续。
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
wind wrote:
panadol84u wrote:
关注关注。 Razz

先把导入导出书签做了。你下个最新的0.5.6版试试。


awesome, 可以用了,需要自己建个txt文档。导出的时候模拟器会出io—error。但是没关系。多岛两次竟然也给导出来了？？不可思议啊。（一次导不出来）。
使用模拟器的代价吧。。不影响使用。完全可以用。 Razz
。感谢。
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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可以用了,需要自己建个txt文档。

也可以不建，选择一个目录就行了，会使用缺省的名字bookmark.txt.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: 请求帮助 psp kvm 3 没有真人语音？ Reply with quote
wind wrote:
panadol84u wrote:
所以想请大佬多添个 声音打包的设置，好不？ Exclamation

http://www.teesoft.info/teedict/teedict.jnlp
最新的已经可以支持在导出词典和打包到jar之间暂停一下。你可以复制文件到dict\sound目录，然后按确认继续。


可以打包了太好了。虽然发不出声。这肯定是模拟器的问题。过段时间就应该可以解决了。请保留这个选项。因为声音文件10几万，移动的时候非常的慢。我在电脑上是做成iso然后挂在f:\盘上。有条件的话打包还是比较好的。虽然有些人的手机可能不行。

多谢 Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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可以用了,需要自己建个txt文档。

也可以不建，选择一个目录就行了，会使用缺省的名字bookmark.txt.


非常实用的功能。竟然没有一个字典有这个功能？！现在终于有了。
Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
好像这一新版运行速度有了很大很大的改善啊。读声音读不出来的时候不会亮灯了。
单词目录，和解释出来的也快。亮灯也少。我的幻觉？
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: 书签的建议 Reply with quote
Razz 今天玩了好久这个字典。
发现书签有两个特点：
1：自动alphabetically重新排列？
其实这个应该用做选择比较好。因为学单词绝对不是背字典来着，
平常见到一个学一个才是比较合理的。所以他本身的顺序是有用的
他联系着时间。什么时候在某个时候接触的这个单词。
然后复习的时候你就知道看什么了。比方说今天认了5个单词，
kXXXX, axxxx, sxxxx, mxxxx, cxxxxx,
你就这样回头再有看一编不是很容易。如果整进了其他的单词一起。
axxxx,bxxxx,bxxxx,cxxxx.........zxxxx.....
那变成要全部复习。是要很强的脑力的。而且浪费了时间和环境给我们
带来的记忆。这样背出来的单词像背字典一样，口语会非常的困难。
2.书签只进不出？ Laughing Razz
几次之后就发现越来越多。不要的不能删除。只能一个一个。
加个del all又太危险了。不小心给删就都没了。
要么改成直接读取bookmark.txt 这样方面好修改。也省了很多源码。
而且读几k的东西根本没感觉的。
或者应该可以import进去的完全替换掉已有的。
Idea

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